Episode
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Sudarshan Seshadri on High-Stakes AI Systems and the Cost of Getting It Wrong

Sudarshan Seshadri—VP of AI, Data Science, and Foundations Engineering at Alto Pharmacy—joins us to explore what it takes to build high-stakes AI systems that people can actually trust. He shares lessons from deploying machine learning and LLMs in healthcare, where speed, safety, and uncertainty must be carefully balanced. We talk about designing AI to support pharmacist judgment, the shift from bottlenecks to decision backbones, and why great data leaders are really architects of how irreversible decisions get made.
June 19, 2025
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Guest
Sudarshan Seshadri

Alto Pharmacy

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Sudarshan Seshadri is the Vice President of AI, Data Science, and Foundations Engineering at Alto Pharmacy. Since joining Alto in 2020, he has led efforts to apply machine learning and large language models to high-stakes healthcare workflows, focusing on safety, trust, and operational impact.

Prior to Alto, Sudarshan spent several years at Groupon, where he held senior leadership roles in data science and supply chain optimization. His earlier career includes roles at Mu Sigma and Oracle, and he has consistently focused on using analytics to improve business performance and customer outcomes. He holds a Bachelor of Technology in Mechanical Engineering from the National Institute of Technology Karnataka, and a Master’s degree in Operations Research and Industrial Engineering from Texas A&M University.

HOST
Hugo Bowne-Anderson

Delphina

Hugo Bowne-Anderson is an independent data and AI consultant with extensive experience in the tech industry. He is the host of the industry podcast Vanishing Gradients, a podcast exploring developments in data science and AI. Previously, Hugo served as Head of Developer Relations at Outerbounds and held roles at Coiled and DataCamp, where his work in data science education reached over 3 million learners. He has taught at Yale University, Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, and conferences like SciPy and PyCon, and is a passionate advocate for democratizing data skills and open-source tools.

Key Quotes

Key Takeaways

Data leadership is decision leadership.

Suddu argues that the core job of a data leader isn’t managing models or dashboards—it’s shaping how critical decisions get made, especially when stakes are high and judgment matters.

AI in healthcare isn’t about speed—it’s about trust.

At Alto, automation doesn’t replace humans; it supports pharmacists with safe, explainable, and regulation-aware systems. Trust is earned through consistency, not cleverness.

LLMs are tools for structure, not generation.

Rather than generating content, Alto uses LLMs to extract, classify, and interpret clinical data—feeding structured signals into downstream decision systems built for precision.

The metrics you track shape the outcomes you get.

Suddu shows how shared, causal, and actionable metrics—like Alto’s “perfect prescription score”—can bridge teams and move the needle on both patient experience and operational performance.

Full-stack practitioners thrive in strong systems.

While the team includes specialists, Alto’s strength comes from people who can carry problems from concept to resolution—and from a culture that supports collective growth.

Judgment scales through structure, not speed.

With thousands of contextual decisions happening daily, Alto invests in infrastructure to scale pharmacist judgment—not just throughput. Probabilistic reasoning and human-in-the-loop systems are essential.

Irreversible decisions demand better tooling.

The systems Suddu builds don’t just support workflows—they influence decisions with real consequences. That’s why rigor, feedback loops, and explainability are baked in from the start.

The next leap for data leaders is executive.

Looking ahead, Suddu sees modern data leaders stepping into broader roles—defined by storytelling, strategic clarity, and long-term decision accuracy, not just technical expertise.

You can read the full transcript here.

00:00 Introduction to Decision Making in Data Leadership

01:08 Challenges in Data Leadership

01:22 Interview with Sudu: Journey and Insights

01:36 Building Trust in AI Systems

01:46 From Bottlenecks to Backbones

02:08 Call to Action

02:20 Introduction to Delphia and High Signal

02:56 Frameworks for Decision Muscle Memory

03:29 Sudu's Career Journey

05:33 Joining Alto Pharmacy

08:03 Building a Data-Driven Culture at Alto

12:49 Evolution of Data Teams: 2012 vs. 2025

16:19 Creating Shared Definitions and Metrics

21:35 Retaining Talent and Building Strong Teams

25:46 Role Design: Full Stack Practitioners vs. Specialists

28:17 The Role of Full Stack Practitioners in Data Teams

28:56 AI and LLMs in Pharmacy Decision Support

29:19 Challenges in Pharmacy Workflow

31:48 Machine Learning Applications at Alto

34:43 AI Pharmacist Assistant: Reducing Burnout

39:41 Using LLMs for Contextual Learning in Healthcare

44:19 Balancing Automation with Safety and Compliance

48:11 Metrics for Measuring AI Systems in Healthcare

51:52 Future of Data Leaders in Executive Roles

55:15 Retrospective Advice for Data Leaders

57:58 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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